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Soft Readings: V

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  • #20236
    Juan E. Sandoval
    Keymaster
    • Type: TiNe
    • Development: l--l
    • Attitude: Adaptive

    Jesse Schell

    Spoiler

    Margin of Error:
    Most likely: TeSi l-ll?
    Less likely: TeNi l-ll?
    Unlikely: (Other Delta/Gamma Ji+Pe+Je)

    Oh man, what a crazy look to his eyes. I had to build a collage and look at multiple HD videos to get a holistic sense of his ocular tension. I think he's an Ne/Si user but he's got some pointy eyebrows.
    As far as his type goes, my initial impression of him was TeNi but he appears to be TeSi l-ll, of a similar shade as TeNi l-ll Max Tegmark in the database. I really don't know though. I'm having the same problem with Jesse as I had earlier with John Green. Te-lead ambiguity seems to be a common theme this round! 🙂
    In either case, he's a multi-function conscious individual. Here is a little bit of what we see:

    Conscious Je

    2:36

    ^ Te  Snippy Head Shakes + Ji Disengaging Down
    2:17

    ^ Je Projecting Hands
    2:26

    ^ Je Head Push + Je Projecting Hands

    Conscious Ji


    0:16

    ^ Ji Momentum Halting + Ji Disengaging Eyes
    0:21

    ^ Ji Eyes Disengage Down + Ji Exerted Push
    But notice how the priority is still Je above Ji. The exerted push doesn't really struggle as much as it would coming from high Ji, and the Ji momentum halts lack the poise and delicacy of native Ji energy (i.e. prince/princess energy).

    Pe

    0:01

    ^ Pe Eye Toggling (subordinate to a J-lead rigidity and body-centricity)
    1:30

    ^ Pe Bubbling Momentum + Pe Body Swaying (contained within a J-lead structure) / J Subordinate Perception
     
    This is turning out to be far more involved than I originally planned. I'm gonna need to cut it short here, but in essence, he's a complex fellow with displays of Je, Ji and Pe. If he is an antithetical (l-ll) development, that would be very interesting to see, as it's very rare and we haven't really grasped the full extend of what it means.
    I know that he's got a peculiar methodology to teaching game design, with a philosophy that's focused empowering people to have ownership of their creative work. At the very least, it seems that he does not display the typical just-Je mindsets, but has several special approaches he takes. I must admit I don't understand him yet. The margin of error on this one is pretty high too. But I hope this preview gives at least a sense of what his psychology may be.

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    #20239
    Juan E. Sandoval
    Keymaster
    • Type: TiNe
    • Development: l--l
    • Attitude: Adaptive

    John Cooper

    Spoiler

    Margin of Error:
    Most likely: FeSi l-l-
    Less likely: (NeTi)
    Unlikely: Anything Else
    Yay! This one is relatively straight-foward. John Cooper appears to me as an FeSi l-l-, of a similar shade as FeNi l-l- Andrew WK and FeSi l-l- Sammy Hagar. He's heavy on the Pe function, but is coming from a natively Je orientation, as we can tell from his J Subordinate Perception.


    0:38

    ^ J Subordinate Perception + Je Gesticulation (+ Pe fidgeting/bubbling)
    1:47

    ^ J Subordinate Perception + Je Gesticulation (+ Pe bubbling momentum)

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    That's it for this round, I'll do the remaining new ones next month. But I'm excited to add these to the database soon! Thank you guys for the requests 🙂

    #20281
    EpicEntity
    Participant
    • Type: SeTi
    • Development: l--l
    • Attitude: Directive

    The one on Jesse Schell was a mind-blow!
    I feel worst for the wrong John Cooper than I do of me complaining about you typing someone other than John Cooper of Social Heartistry or Art of Social. lol
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e104VPUlfqE&t=2785s
    If you decide on a redo this month then I would prefer you came back to it when you have time.
    PS: RSD and Social Heartistry is about me looking into my past. I've moved on to more of Game Design and Abraham Hicks teachings.

    #20293
    Animal
    Participant
    • Type: SeFi
    • Development: lll-
    • Attitude: Seelie

    @Auburn
    I looked everywhere for footage so I could give you leads, but I'm also not a top internet scavenger =D hopefully someone will come up with something. I'll keep searching too.
    Also agree about the Fe teaching pattern!  They're made for it. And yeah, enneagram seems to span all the quadras. It has become a mess now, though 🙁
    Ichazo and Naranjo both disowned their students (who spread the word far and wide) because they are sickened by the way it's being handled now... and the teachers who are predominant now.  I'm sure R&H is a main culprit here. They really fucked it up. I'm going to be addressing this in a long series of writings.

    @Alice
    very true! To me the best approach is to combine the spiritual/archetypal with the personal growth... in a sense, they are one and the same. As above, so below. But as a teacher or thinker, very few people can bridge this gap entirely on their own. This is why I like working with a small group of enneagram savvy people (with different CTs), including my husband.. it seems to get hit from several angles then.
    Interestingly, Chestnut continued the 'Naranjo school of thought,' and he is NiFe right?  In Socionics the two would be conflictors - the furthest possible personalities. Yet she took his writings and expanded on them.  Kind of reminds me of how I  (with the help of my crew, but I was leading this effort at the time) had built a whole system of pictures and ideas about Jung types, which I found Auburn (my own conflictor) had done better and more completely, so I abandoned the project.. but point being we noticed a lot of the same patterns and came up with the same typings for the same celebs. But with my personality, there's no way I could have been the one to gather all the data, explain it, etc; I just don't do Ti. I could see myself potentially writing descriptions in the far future, which would stem from his findings, which is sort of what Chestnut had done relative to Naranjo.

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