Se/Ne/Pe & Clumsiness?

[Nymph]

Seems to me Pe is more about the impulses rather than perception per se. Something coming out instead of detailing something from the outside which is more Si. Pi is more about perception than Pe? I have also been delving into this possibility for quite some time. That's my $1.00 change anyway
[I'm also clumsy btw, would not even see something pointed out specifically by someone else. Which usually causes anger in other party. Which causes me to avoid situation where pointings could happen.]

[Bera]

I know someone I suspect is INTP (i think TiNe) which basically do stuff as not paying attention driving, and once delivered mail without a back wheel (it was still there just, not doing anything Wheelish stuff, as moving…). . . Pooor car….  -_-

Yup, wheels need to do wheelish stuff, ahahaha !
I was just talking to my boss earlier, telling her I would not dare to drive, as I might kill someone if I did. Even though I have a driver's license !
Do you think developing Si is what helped you become more attentive in some cases - like with driving ? Or was it just repeating some activities over and over again till you became better at doing them?
By the way, did anyone notice how many taxi/uber/bus drivers are conductors? Or have conscious conductor functions/conductor functions they modulate very well? Did anyone ever take a taxi and met a driver who was not either very articulate and very passionate about politics or who did not keep anecdotal/abstract rambling for the entire ride? Not saying all of them are conductors, of course, but it might be a statistically relevant trend.

[Ninth]

I only noticed taxi drivers are inclined to... talk. And if you're not talkative, they go for the weather-routine questions. Why.
You also mean Pe-leads with Pi-dev, for example? Or only types with both Pi and Je dev'ed/modulated?
I think you could be right, but I need to pay attention to it in the future.
I met some taxi-drivers who had a Trickster feel to them and my internal alarm rang. I think one of them was a fake, but I acted normally. Another easily shared his strategies for "stealing from customers" during the whole trip but, you know, he talked about it like it was the strategy of others lol (he also shared a trick to unmask them, perhaps to make us comfortable since we were young and therefore probably naive, but... it had unmasked him lol!). From sheer hunch, PeJe or JePe I'd say?

[Bera]

You also mean Pe-leads with Pi-dev, for example?

Yes, definitely. Since I only see them from the backseat and for a short while and they don't do many free hand gestures, I can't see much anyway. Just my impression is they have more conductor energy than the general population.
I do think many are Pe leads with developed Je and/or Pi. And some conductors, I think more Je than Pi.
Ohhh...one recently told me about the "woodpecker app". So, sometimes I am looking for a taxi on an app and someone immediately announces he will come to pick me up but he is 10 or 15 minutes away. Then he might call and say "I am so sorry, the app was showing me another place, I thought you are at... (x point close to him). Please cancel the ride ! There is nothing I can do!" Because after accepting you as a client, they are not allowed to cancel the ride themselves without possible negative consequences like a sanction by their manager or a low rating by the client.
So, why is this happening?
This is happening because normally taxi drivers stay in one place and when they see a client close to them on the map, looking for a car, they tap on the screen and by that tapping they take the ride.
Now, the "woodpecker" is an app some taxi drivers install that creates automatic tapping as soon as any order is made. Anywhere in Bucharest. The taxi driver can be in the South part of the city and the client way North, 40 minutes away from him, it doesn't matter, the woodpecker does not discern. It just taps to take any ride right away. And then the driver might see he is way too far from his client and he might call him to tell him there was a mistake on the app and he should cancel his order and make a new one !!
This guy seemed JePe or PeJe, I think. I enjoyed his explanation a lot, it clarified some situations I never understood before and it also made me think how hard it can be for people to compete with technology even at such a simple level (as drivers who are actually close to the client don't manage to tap faster than the woodpecker). Also how people tend to combine the use of technology with opportunistic behaviors. Which had a trickster feel to it too.
 

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