Is Donald Trump NiTe Instead?

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  • Animal
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    • Type: SeFi
    • Development: lll-
    • Attitude: Unseelie

    I posted this in the Soft Reading thread, but I thought it might merit a discussion thread.

    Donald Trump …. I know he was typed as TeNi way back in the beginning of CT. But since then I have learned more about signals and I have also seen his young videos which look very NiTe. I also have my doubts about him being an “articulator” especially when you compare him to a Te lead like Ben Shapiro or Blair White. All politics aside, I am just morbidly curious to know if he could be NiTe instead. His old interviews seem slow and his focus is “far reaching” rather than Te bulldozing. He also sits like a potato sack and has a pudgeface. Maybe I’m crazy but this has been bothering me 🤪

     

     

    Are you guys seeing what I’m seeing?

    Note: I would like to ask everyone please to keep this apolitical. If someone says something good or bad about him in order to discuss his type or his psychology, please do not respond in an inflamed way about politics. Thanks so much. 🙂

    • This topic was modified 6 months, 1 week ago by Animal.
    • This topic was modified 6 months, 1 week ago by Animal.
    Animal
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    • Type: SeFi
    • Development: lll-
    • Attitude: Unseelie

    Bump?

    Wolf00
    Participant
    • Type: SeFi
    • Development: lll-
    • Attitude: Unseelie

    He has decisive hits in his motions:

    All of his motions are overall very angular from what I’m seeing:

    I also couldn’t identify clear eye centric instances – his head motions don’t affect the torso at all and the eyes don’t really appear to direct the head:

    The sync between the eyes and the head comes from Se eye-head parallel motions and this can confuse things a bit.

    You can compare it with one of the sample GIFs for face centricity from the codifier:

    ^He’s also displaying Se eye head parallel motions here, but the eyes’ orientation doesn’t direct the motions of the head and the torso is totally unaffected by the motions of the head as well.

     

    You can observe the difference between them and this eye centric sample^ by seeing how the eyes direct the head, they don’t just happen to move at the same time with the head. The torso is also affected by the head’s motion in this GIF.

    Animal
    Participant
    • Type: SeFi
    • Development: lll-
    • Attitude: Unseelie

    @Wolf00 makes sense! I also watched more recent videos and now I agree with your assessment. I typed him as TeNi for years and argued with everyone, since everyone typed him as Se lead all over the place. It only occurred to me now that he could be NiTe for the reasons I said, but you’re right. The hands are very decisive, all the time.

    sekundaer
    Participant
    • Type: TiNe
    • Development: l-l-
    • Attitude: Adaptive

    I think that was very good observations, @Wolf00 .   Really helped me being able to make the distinction.

    When I saw the old video of him I agreed with @Animal that he seemed much more introverted there. Funny thing, usually people move in the opposite direction,  those who are flamboyant in their youth gets more restraint as older.
    It is for sure that here is another body language and it is a bit strange that he score exactly the same now and then.
    His Te is certainly more prevalent now and the Ni is not so obvious as before, although he score as II–.   I think that such a difference should be reflected in the way he is typed.
    Maybe a sign for very strong Te  (in continuation of what I wrote in the vultology section recently).

     

    • This reply was modified 6 days, 5 hours ago by sekundaer.
    sekundaer
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    • Type: TiNe
    • Development: l-l-
    • Attitude: Adaptive

    The degree of a signal would  be interesting to quantify.  I always think of the guru (Osho) at the front site of the website as typical Ni as he has extremely hypnotic eyes.   And it was part of his persona not to be shaken by anything but just sit there at his throne and make politically incorrect jokes about religion and other delicate subjects, which could be seen as the behavioral counterpart to this strong signal.
    Thinking about people I know in real life that have very heavy signals of some sort, I am reminded about someone I know who have very angular movements, with plateau velocity to a degree that is a caricature (he would not be a good ballet dancer). And this is reflected in his psychology, he is so ‘mechanic’ oriented that this too is one of the first things one notice about him.  He is the kind of guy who have strategies,  often like if it was a militarily battle, for anything, could be how to approach a woman which is not where he has his greatest successes. Point being that there seems to be a correlation between the amplitude of signals and psychological traits.  A lot of signals belonging to a certain function doesn’t necessary make that person a typical user of that function.  It can be rather hidden in his/her behavior.  But is it possible to imagine someone with the amplitude of Te signals like Trump not to be highly directive and  insisting?

     

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