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What Has Being Typed Accurately Done for You?

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  • #19978
    Alice
    Participant
    • Type: FiSe
    • Development: ll--
    • Attitude: Unseelie

    CT posits that we have been typed accurately, with proof that we use a certain style of cognition. What sorts of effects has this had on your life?
    Personally, knowing my type and dev level, I now understand my own sensuality better, along with my deep sensitivity to sensation, emotion, and connection. I now understand that I am not alone in my sensitivities and predisposition to addiction, and that there are other people who experience the world the same way I do. That is deeply comforting, I think! I've always had trouble finding people to really relate to, but maybe now, I'm realizing that there's all sorts of people who have similar cognitive styles out there! We all just look different on the surface 🙂
    How has this all affected your lives and outlooks? Has it brought you comfort, or something else?

    #20251
    fayest42
    Participant
    • Type: FiNe
    • Development: ll--
    • Attitude: Unseelie

    Very interesting question! I imagine that it will affect me in different and changing ways over time. I thought for years that I was an INTP, and when I came here I was typed as FiNe. It seems that FiNe's and TiNe's have quite a bit in common, so a lot of the ideas I had about myself still made sense, but some of them have changed. The main thing I've noticed so far is an opening up and increased acceptance of my sensitivity. I've always been very sensitive, and when I was a kid I cried very easily. That wasn't something I liked about myself and it wasn't very socially convenient, so I kind of shut that down. The sensitivity didn't really go away, but it was sort of repressed. I was already in the process of trying to be more accepting of my emotions before I found CT, but realizing that I'm an Fi-lead has changed the way I view the process. I previously thought I was a Ti-lead, so I thought that my pattern of immediately detaching from my emotions to logically analyze them was just a part of my wiring. I still wanted to learn how to process them better, but I was coming at it from the mindset of learning a skill I didn't have a natural talent for. Now I think about it moreso as accepting who I truly am and accepting that sensitive little kid I used to be. I do appreciate being able to stop myself from crying in front of strangers, but I also need to allow that sensitive part of myself to do its thing every once in a while if I want to be a whole person.

    #20461
    Connie
    Participant
    • Type: SiTe
    • Development: l-ll
    • Attitude: Unseelie

    I had typed as both infj and intj in MBTI and have found that CT is much more accurate and also helped me understand why I typed 2 ways on MBTI.  But more importantly it has helped me to understand myself better.  I am SiTe with an inverted development (I-II) or as Auburn says an FiNe within an Si framework.  While I get frustrated with myself at least now I understand why I think and behave the way I do.  While my Ne likes to take lead, when I worked in mortgage dept at a bank my Te was strong and still kicks in occasionally. Murder  It has also given me better insight to people in general understanding the judgement/perception process that our brain uses.

    #20462
    Connie
    Participant
    • Type: SiTe
    • Development: l-ll
    • Attitude: Unseelie

    Hmmm, not sure how that “murder” got in there...I think maybe it is supposed to be “moreover “ ?

    #20467
    Ninth
    Participant
    • Type: TiSe
    • Development: l--l
    • Attitude: Directive

    lol

    Murder has also given me better insight to people in general

    sounds funny, I have to admit that.
     
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    It’s made a difference.
     

    • Background: the social masks

    Spoiler

    I’m a very introverted person and, as a child, I realized that I had to work on my non-existent social skills. I observed people, studied online, absorbed info and behaviors from movies and… voilà! My social masks!
    It took me a whole year to study a plan to become part of the social life at school, and I had to write some behavioral rules (ethics and principles) on a notebook; it was like a “mission”, and I really needed to show myself that I could do it.
    I did it. I became very popular.
    And then there was this sine curve of appearance-disappearance because being sociable was exhausting and I needed very long pauses and I hated people texting me that much.
    Then one, two, three… several close people said that I’m a cold person. I’m not a cold person! I feel things and I care about people! I realized my mother has always complained that I’m not demonstrative, that I’m secretive; that my bestie’s company felt so comfortable because we rarely ever felt the need to say “I love you” to each other.
    I needed to fix that -- that's what I thought. And I tried. At my best.
     

    • MBTI & JCF

    Fast forward, I meet someone who introduces himself as an ENTP. Makes me take the test, it says “ISTP”, he says «I didn’t know sensors could be funny. You must be INTP». And the journey began.
    By that time, everyone had forgotten that I’m actually an introverted, solitary, silent person, pretty much like they forgot I’m curly… because I’ve been straightening my hair for ten years, you know. Same goes for the social masks.

    • «ENTP with very high Fe» was the most quoted.
    • «She’s surely an intuitive type, N-dom — too intuitive» (?) (really, I don’t know)

    I started realizing I was a sensor, so I proposed ISFJ (because of the Fe/Ti axis) or ISxP. Each time I would provide them with proof of me being a sensor, they’d twist it into fitting the Ne › Si pattern.

    • «You think you’re an introverted sensor, but you’re an unhealthy Extravert — loops and grips, no?»

    Was I being delusional?
    Were they being collectively biased?
    The arguments were OK, we just seemed to be looking at different… facts.

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    tl;dr | social masks, people typed me N-dom, high Fe.
     

    • Since I learned about CT

    i)    I discovered the CTVC and made people who knew me use it on me: NeFi/FiNe.
    i.i)  We made some trials (type people on the database, compare the results): unreliable.
    ii)   I joined the Discord and sent a video to few members: NeFi = FiNe > TiNe.
    iii)  The vibes I sent to members from solely typing were somehow Delta Reviser.

    By the time I bought the official typing, I gave up*: I must be a delta, even if experientially it doesn’t make any sense -- my male bestie is a delta Ne and we’re nothing alike on the side of processing data; moreoever, what Se-users said on Discord felt familiar, while Ne's didn't.
    Things weren’t adding up.
    Cognitive dissonance.
    Hated that.

    Spoiler

    In the meanwhile, Reddit typed me TiSe.
    Before Reddit, any PerC member I “met” had ruled out the Ne/Si axis (INTJ/ISxP).
    Edit: Reddit and PerC didn't "experience" me, isn't that interesting?

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    Then Aubs typed me: TiSe. Directive.

    Spoiler

    *In my country’s MBTI community, Directiveness → Te, so I had become an ENFP for some and stayed ENTP for others.

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    Well. Goodbye cognitive dissonance.
     

    • What changed?

    “F whoever idealizes me; I know who I am, my story, my reasons”.
    Also, I trashed the social masks and now feel less pressured from the outside.
    I think I learned some kind of lesson.

    #20644
    Rickus
    Participant
    • Type: SeFi
    • Development: l-l-
    • Attitude: Seelie

    For me it has really opened my eyes a lot. I used to be convinced I was an NeFi for years. I had heard about cognitive typing through micro-expressions but I was actually opposed to it for some reason, because it seemed strange to me and it went against the commonly perceived typing of certain celebrities, like JK Rowling for example I had always assumed was an INFJ, but on this website she is a TeSi, so flabbergasted and thought how is that even possible? However when I came to this website I was better educated about what it's actually all about. I also got a strange result here at first, NiTe, but then I was able to do another test and my true type came out. I am an SeFi, not an NeFi as I had been lead to believe.
    I had a lot of misconceptions about N vs S, and the problem is the internet can explain it to you until you are blue in the face, but it never actually makes sense until you add the facial expressions and bodily movements. Its a much more tangible, concrete way of typing people. I have attempted to share what I have discovered on typing communities, but many are antagonistic towards this manner of typing and seem stuck in their way of interpretations like I used to be. Its a pity that very few people want to know what the truth is, its like a prophet prophesying to people who are blind and deaf to their message haha.

    #20645
    Rickus
    Participant
    • Type: SeFi
    • Development: l-l-
    • Attitude: Seelie

    Ninth
    Yes I think the Intuitive bias is so deeply, deeply ingrained in the typing community, its really short-sighted and narrow-minded of them, ironic that they think sensing types are short-sighted and narrow-minded, I think its the opposite, at least for those having the intuitive bias. I must admit I had an intuitive bias myself, and always associated my imagination and wild ideas with Ne, not realizing that I'm pretty Se in my day to day life and quite observant of my sensory environment as well. I will notice posters on high rise buildings from far away for example, while my friend told me she barely notices those sorts of details. I am clumsy though, contrary to the Se stereotype, and I used to lose my belongings a lot, I still do, a few months ago I lost my wallet with all my important cards inside (cry, cry). I think we all have moments of clumsiness from time to time.

    #20653
    Ninth
    Participant
    • Type: TiSe
    • Development: l--l
    • Attitude: Directive

    Yes I think the Intuitive bias is so deeply, deeply ingrained in the typing community, its really short-sighted and narrow-minded of them, ironic that they think sensing types are short-sighted and narrow-minded, I think its the opposite, at least for those having the intuitive bias. I must admit I had an intuitive bias myself, and always associated my imagination and wild ideas with Ne, not realizing that I’m pretty Se in my day to day life and quite observant of my sensory environment as well. I will notice posters on high rise buildings from far away for example, while my friend told me she barely notices those sorts of details. I am clumsy though, contrary to the Se stereotype, and I used to lose my belongings a lot, I still do, a few months ago I lost my wallet with all my important cards inside (cry, cry). I think we all have moments of clumsiness from time to time.

    Sorry @rickus-kruger, I read your post just now.

    Spoiler

    Yes, there's definitely an Intuitive bias, but that wasn't the only problem with MBTI. Empathy -> F, Dark Triad -> T and things like that. I quit the community precisely because both the theory and the method were messy (also pretty toxic, but that's another story), and, as Auburn once said, strongly based on reverse-deduction.
    Only because I liked studying theoretical stuff, reading, solving puzzles: that made me an xNTx type. Uh, ok.
    But, what's funny about it is: I've always said (long before knowing about MBTI) that I dislike people "discussing" ideas for the sake of it; fantasy; pseudophilosophying. I've always been a brake for Ne and Ne tangential processing can be pretty distressing (I often ask the Ne-leads to get back to the main route asap or I'll lose track of the lines of thoughts and fall into nothingness).
    I was good (using past tense because with insomnia I've lost not-a-few IQ points) with pattern recognition + lateral thinking, and that also implied "Ne" in my MBTI community (??). Plus, I have several interests (-> Ne), but what the MBTI people did ignore was: they all converge somewhere.
    Another funny thing is: the stereotypical ISTP is an Engineer -- guess what I am?
    About clumsiness: I can be clumsy too and that's when I'm not being conscious about my body, there can be multiple reasons for that; yet, I keep processing data like a Se/Ni is supposed to, and ime I feel my clumsiness is very different from that of my Ne-acquaintances (I may trip on my shoes because I'm in my head, but they often don't see that chair they're gonna hit, as if it didn't exist before they "felt" it).

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    Used the spoiler tag since it's OT

    #20667
    a.k.a.Janie
    Participant
    • Type: FiSe
    • Development: ll--
    • Attitude: Unseelie

    Direcly and indirectly, it has opened up a lot of doors to better self understanding, and of course, understanding of others and the world, as I've learned about the system and vultology, etc. I had been at a plateau phase in my personal growth and healing journey for a couple years or so prior, so this has been a very welcome advancement.
    I used to have "intuitive bias" too. Now I kind of cringe to think about it, but I forgive myself, because I mostly just wanted to feel more understood. And for instance, seeing the place Se is supposed to occupy in my cognitive stack, in contrast to the "blindspot" I used to think it was, has removed some of the excuses I used to hide behind for some of my shortcomings in that area, and challenged me to step up. I have a much better understanding of what Ni and Ne are and are not now, too, although there is still some nebulousness there.
    Towards understanding others better, one thing I have stopped doing is trying to slot people into boxes based on my limited understanding of their behaviors...oh, without taking this off topic, what exactly is meant by "reverse deduction" in the above quote @rickus-kruger ?

    #20673
    Rickus
    Participant
    • Type: SeFi
    • Development: l-l-
    • Attitude: Seelie

    Hi a.k.a Janie
    Yes I personally think only relying on mbti is limiting obviously so it does cause you to put people into boxes. I am glad you could forgive yourself about the bias, I did as well. I am still very drawn to intuitive discussions, but I have allowed my Se to breath and it has explained a lot of my behaviours and psychological phenomenology, like why I react the way I do and in such a visceral way, the fact that I enjoy creating art using vivid colours and making it as close to the real photograph I drew it from as possible seems very Se to me. I think my Ni (which may or may not be developed) is probably responsible for the fact that I was super drawn to tarot cards and astrology in high school, though it conflicted with my spiritual beliefs I am still drawn to it, as long as I can find a place where it isn't going to conflict with that I am more than happy to delve into it as deeply as I possibly can.
    I am assuming the reverse deduction is when people assume that their mbti test results points accurately to their cognitive functions. Since they haven't taken vultology into account, this form of reverse deduction is highly unreliable. And there is that other bias of Feeling types being kind and empathetic, while Thinking types are mean and hurtful. This is terrible and so inaccurate. I am glad that there are four different levels of feeling and not just you are either warmhearted or coldhearted, its a lot more nuanced than that, and we all have ethical judgment, even those with stronger Te or Ti have it.

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