I’m gonna use this thread to drop soft-readings as I come across them, in no particular order. They could be from Patreon, Discord, or anywhere else. 🙂
I’m gonna try to make this a regular activity, and pick back up on the readings, which are the core of this model.
- Type: SeFi
- Development: lll-
- Attitude: Seelie
I’ve always taken for granted that Johnny Depp was Ji. He is so meticulous and delicate. I just didn’t know which one. Of course, I am thrilled to see that it’s TiSe, considering he was one of my very few celebrity crushes, and I am very proud of my consistency in picking out TiSe’s as love interests throughout my life.
Indeed he is very similar to Jared Leto, as you say. He’s also a musician.HrafnParticipant
- Type: SiTe
- Development: l-ll
- Attitude: Seelie
He seems Pe-lead with development in Pi, although he’s another one of those developments that is complicated by drug use, since we don’t yet have a way to differentiate out the vultological effects layered atop of a person from drugs, from their type. Yet, it’s also possible that prolonged drug use may literally lead to changes in consciousness, such that it effectively changes development level (of Pi in this case).
In general his eye shape and the way they sit in the sockets seems to align with Ne/Si, but he also has a lowered eyelid at times (from smoking?) and his body seems to be grounded. Again, I don’t know to what degree drug use affects vultology, […]
Eric TWFP has some videos where he takes some bong-rips in the middle….maybe those could be helpful for observing the effect of grass on vultology (although one assumes he could have been high to begin with).
But that raises the whole question, which you hint at, about how many of the rockstars, etc., in the database, are under the influence of one substance or another at the time of their interviews. Let alone longer-term prescription medications like anti-depressants, etc. In fact, I’m pretty sure too much coffee tends to give me more “extroverted” energetics. (Or are you mostly wondering about long-term effects?).
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@hrafn – oh right. Though my guess would be that he might have already been high from the start, yeah.
Indeed it is a open question – and a potentially answerable one. As with any medical test you take, the test results depends on controlled conditions (i.e. don’t eat food in the morning before a blood test). Vultology at the moment has been designed with certain normal conditions in mind. But we could also change the framing and examine a variety of people under the influence, versus their sober forms, to see just what, and how much, influence it has on their vultology.
Already I can tell that it tends to amplify fluidity (i.e. P), and relax rigidity (i.e. J). But see, what’s interesting to me is not to see this as an invalidation of vultology results, but actually a confirmation of it. Isn’t it so interesting that when a person takes substances to loosen their mind, their body also loosens at the same time. Even there you can see the tangible, very real and direct link between mind and body. So we could also say that those under the influence of drugs are literally less J at that time, at this is not a measurement error. It’s simply not caused by innate type necessarily, but by a chemical context.
So therefore, if prolonged drug use makes it so a person’s newfound “sober” vultology has been altered to be more fluid, it follows from vultological principles that it’s because their cognition literally *is* more fluid now. And this does seem to match. What this might mean, neurologically, I dunno, but perhaps certain frontal, left-brain (just a guess) faculties have been silenced or released from hard work — so that the individual is simultaneously less cognitively rigid and physically rigid.
And this is why I theorize that the results of prolonged drug use on vultology may not necessarily be an error, but be accurately portraying the person’s mind. It’s just that the result may not be strictly typological/genetic in origin, but more akin to P function development. Psychedelics in particular are very perceptual in nature, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they kickstart actual cognitive development of perception.
I’ve gone off on a tangent here 😀 but feel free to reply, and I can make this its own thread if necessary!DelrakeParticipant
- Type: SeFi
- Development: l--l
- Attitude: Unseelie
Oh yeah, this guy is beyond fascinating. My mind is blown every time I watch his videos.
In this lecture, he talks about writing, language, and symbolism as a sort of “Pi” in external form. Reminds me of Model 2 Perception a bit.Spoiler:Spoiler:
As for his vultology, he does have a lot of Pe spunk similar to Robert Downey Jr, but then he also reaches into Ni for lengthy periods trying to explain a concept. What’s interesting is he never really loses that Je+Se momentum despite the long esoteric rambles. It’s kind of like he takes his foot off the gas to glide through a Pi recall (even for minutes at a time) but he doesn’t hit the brakes if that makes sense. Idk though, just thinking out loud here!
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