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From my years of life till today it seems like reason is better off serving application. Where as application would serve truth and meaning. Perhaps there is a way to accidentally over-indulge in one of the three while neglecting the other two.
Any open ending agreements or disagreements? Is this dumb a question... a smart a question? Is it correct yet the backwards?
<span style="font-size: 18pt;">A little bit of context</span>
Auburn
It’s to the idea of a “personal God” generally speaking: to one that can hear your prayers, one that has a concern for whether or not you get the job you want, whether or not your child gets cured of cancer, etc. The “father please watch over Robert, and his son who’s going through a rough time right now” type of God. And this is not a minority view among those who believe in God, as far as I can tell.
Fae
Yes, it’s the majority view, but why is it a problem? It’s fine if someone doesn’t prefer this conception, but if you’re gonna go further and mock something like militant atheists do, you’d better do it on the basis of reason, not preference. I like vanilla better than strawberry doesn’t justify mocking strawberry. There’s no logical reason I can find to insist that God must be impersonal. An infinite mind with an absolute freedom, why exactly can’t it be interested in whether I have lice in my hair or not? It created the lice, the hair, and me, after all, and is utterly aware of all three at every instance of their existence.
Epic(me)
Preclude: 1.This might be an Se vs Te struggle, which case we could devil’s advocate for each other. 2. This might be a Pe’s undesired rediscoverings into timeless discussion, which case we could make distinctions based on what we know now.
This seems like a lot of appeal to reason. Yet there seem to be little to no appeal to application. From my years of life till today it seem like reason is better off serving application. Where as application would serve truth and meaning. Should you accept these thoughts and find them impactful I’d wonder how you would rephrase this quote. Now that I really think about it… I am extremely curious.
All context: https://cognitivetype.com/forums/topic/god-patterns-and-reality/
I think I like where you're going with this.
But how would you define: Reason, Application, Meaning/Truth?
I'm not sure we all implicitly come with the same definition of the terms.
Maybe your getting to realize it for myself, but to be honest with you a lot of this depended on context from the last forum. I suspect that I have gotten narrow minded and took out too small of a segment from fae's reply. I so then my mistake @fae.
With that covered... I think there is still something to savage from this would be shipwreck. I'll start with what I pictured and that was an image of whole bunch of guys using logic to determine if a personal god is good or not. Then I thought why not ask those who use it? If they think it works for the better good for them. Not to overly mention his ass again: Einstein seemed to have what could be describe as a personal god or a whole god of Einstein's own personal interpretation. With all that said I ask if this makes sense: Reason: Einstein uses logic to improve his understanding and therefore well being; Application: Einstein's believes works for him and he is happy as hell; Meaning/Truth: Einstein is working for better world in his own way.
PS: No manner how I phase it I feel this under-layer of bullshit as I can't help but feel like I'm covering my ass... at least partially. It is like truth is this flexible substance and if you fuck around too much it will completely fade away.?
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