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Hello there! I'm new here, but from a long time I have been appreciating both Cognitive Type and Vultology theories, I currently advocate for these theories on PDB (www.personality-database.com). I really think Cognitive Type redefinitions are way more precise than other redefinitions of the main traits FxT, NxS, ExI.
So, let's get it started. I noticed that Jordan Peterson is voted on Vultology as a FeNi user. But that means he naturally prefers Fe over Ti (FeNiSeTi). From a Vultologic perspective, it may make sense, because he constantly demonstrate Fe signals (although he also shows Ti and Ni). But I want to talk about the Cognitive Type perspective.
If we look at the core theory behind Vultology, which is Cognitive Type theory, we can notice that his T and F preferences are very pretty well balanced, which does not make sense if we consider Jordan Peterson as a FeNi user, because the Ti would be the function he would be using last (FeNiSeTi). On this hypothesis, Peterson would be used Fe over Ti most of times, but he seems pretty well balanced between both.
Just to bring up the original CT definitions and put everyone on the same ground. I'm talking about Cognitive Type redefinitions about T and F, which are about registrating objects mentally as abiotic/inanimate (T) and biotic/animate (F) as shown below:
Thinking)
• A mental registration of objects as abiotic and inanimate.
• The treatment of something as an 'object’ instead of a ‘subject’
• The difference between an ‘it’ and a ‘they’
• Treating an object as a thing, rather than a being.
• The tendency to depersonalize or mechanize information.
Source: Thinking by CT
Feeling)
• The treatment of something as a ‘subject’ instead of an ‘object’
• The difference between an ‘it’ and a ‘they’
• The assigning of a ‘living’ quality to a thing/being.
• The treatment of an object as warranting an examination of its ethics/morality.
• The treatment of an object as warranting a consideration of their living needs.
• Interfacing with something by understanding it as having qualia/experience.
• The tendency to anthropomorphize.
Source: Feeling by CT
We can notice Jordan Peterson is very well balanced between Feeling and Thinking in videos such as this one:
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMcjxSThD54
However, when we assign Jordan Peterson as a Fe-lead type consequently makes his Ti to the inferior position, and that means his Ti is repressed by his Fe-lead. When I say Ti would be repressed, I mean that the natural preference will always be given to the Fe as a lead function instead of his Ti. But, as I said, Peterson's Ti and Fe are pretty well balanced. So I don't understand how he could be an inferior Ti.
I personally think he is a Ni-lead, because he has pretty balanced FxT and is Se on the inferior position makes sense, because the way Jordan teaches and talks shows that he prefers the associative objects registration than the discrete objects registration.
• https://cognitivetype.com/redefining-s/
• https://cognitivetype.com/redefining-n/
Can someone explain why and how he is a Fe-lead, specially from a Cognitive Type perspective?
Please, correct me if I'm wrong in anything here. I'm here also to learn and debate such interesting typologic theories as Cognitive Type and Vultology.
Thanks!
I think most people here would argue that what you’re noticing is his developmental level. He’s FeNi ||-| last time I checked, which means his Se, the function you’re not seeing, is unconscious. So good eye I suppose? I don’t necessarily agree with this typing from my own perspective, but that’s how I would explain what you’re seeing using the CT framework.
Edit: I realize I didn’t actually explain why he’s typed FeNi. In CT, the argument for his Quadra comes from the function signals, but the argument for his energetics come from the rigid vs. fluid vultology dichotomy. Rational types are thought to have rigid vultology and irrational types are thought to have fluid vultology. Peterson has rigid vultology with beta functions so from that you can say he’s either TiSe or FeNi in CT. There’s not as rigorous a vultological argument for FeNi over TiSe since there are no vultology signals for proactive vs. reactive (E vs. I) or conductor vs. revisor (J vs. P). If I had to guess, a FeNi typing as opposed to a TiSe typing results from a more qualitative analysis of Peterson’s behavior, but I don’t actually know for sure how that last distinction is made.
You can compare JBP FeNi |-|| to Sam Harris TiSe |-||
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