Do you get Bored Easily? Would you get Bored Alone in a White Room?

[Animal]

Do you get bored easily?
What does it take for you to get bored?
What do you do about it when you're bored?
Do you think if you were left alone in a white room you'd become bored and restless?  How long do you think you could tolerate this without losing your mind? 😀
 

[asmodeus, king of demons]

boredom is practically my base state.
 
i need something to do. i need something for my mind to chew on or else it starts chewing on itself.

[Elsie]

i've legit never been bored what's wrong with u guys
 
however...i have so many questions about this scenario..
R PPL WATCHIN?????
what is the origin of my arrival there?
what kind of white room is it? if nothing is in it - what are the conditions and size? did i choose the paint colour? i will kill someone if it's just stark-white.
IS IT LIKE THAT CUBE-MOVIE SCENE?
can i invite other ppl or is this like perma-alone thing? can i bring pets? lol? just yell out the door like guys i found this mysterious white-room possibly-aliens
 
is it
yknow
soundproof
😛
 
 

[Animal]

@elsie
I've never been bored either!
I've been really sick, to the point where I can't walk or can't even turn over in my own bed. During these times, sometimes I'm fully conscious; other times I can barely even think.
Yet still, I have never been bored. I don't quite comprehend what boredom is. Or why it happens.
And I say this after having been immobile for several months at a time.
If I'm stuck in bed with illness, and I can think; then I tell myself stories.  I also did that when I was a kid, since I had severe insomnia.  This is why I started writing long novels at age 11; because I got attached to my characters. They became more real to me than my life 🙂
If I can't think straight enough to tell myself a story, either because I'm tired from insomnia or I'm very very sick; then I just shut my mind off. This is a 'meditation' thing that I invented and mastered when I was pretty young. I learned that if I can't sleep, I can at least rest my mind. It actually works.

[asmodeus, king of demons]

my housemates are going to this sensory deprivation tank thing sometime soon. i'd be interested in that. that seems like the least boring way to play around with boredom

[Elsie]

@Animal found that too. (bedbound also), like 2-4 hr shifts at a time in fakesleep-mode and i dont need much more sleep than that anyways - for when cant sleep but also cant think/move [pain]
so i wonder, if Pe cant, yknow, Pe, if it just, learns that [meditation] as strategy (for me it is, a form of hyperfocus that transcend into something), or if just part of human-nature to do these things
other ppl being bored is just confusing tbh...just uhm...stop yourself? 😛 stop being bored? idk
 
best of luck with improvements/possible-recovery

[asmodeus, king of demons]

"just uhm…stop yourself? stop being bored?"
I don't think that's how it works

[Shelley Lorraine]

I generally don't get bored because I've been lucky to always have access to stimuli. However, when I have to do something boring - like the ironing or some other monotonous recurring chore, I can only get through it by listening to music or audiobooks or taking a break every 2 minutes to find a distraction. If I have a lot weighing on my mind, I can tend a lot of boring tasks without extra help, but my thoughts can only sustain me for so long before I require fresh input. I wonder at people who, when they have nothing required of them, sit on the couch whining about boredom. That's not me. If I'm free, I will find something to do. If I'm alone in a white room.... I could daydream for a while, but I'd get bored eventually. [ETA - daydreaming is my favorite thing to do, but I usually get to a stopping point when I need to take a break, find new stimuli, new triggers for my internal adventures. I also usually daydream with music. A quiet room with just my thoughts and no external triggers/stimulation? I've never had to test this so I can't answer the question for certain. I think maybe I'd waffle between moments of boredom and daydreaming, taking breaks for my mind to refresh on its own.]
In summary - I am rarely bored because I have the freedom to seek entertainment. If not free, I will get bored.

[Animal]

best of luck with improvements/possible-recovery

Thank you 🙂
I've been able to walk just fine for many years now. The problem is just all these other residual symptoms lately, some of which are quite scary (like breathing problems). I'll be ok though <3

“just uhm…stop yourself? stop being bored?”

Hahahaha this is exactly what crosses my mind when people say they're bored. It confuses me. I wonder, are they asking me to do something about it? If so, what? Isn't boredom a choice?
It really does confound me.

when I have to do something boring – like the ironing or some other monotonous recurring chore, I can only get through it by listening to music or audiobooks or taking a break every 2 minutes to find a distraction.

This makes a little more sense to me. I don't mind doing those tasks, because I can do it with music on or "get in a physical rhythm' to make it fun.
But when I'm stuck with humans that I'm not interested in, yet I have to be polite to them, it can get pretty annoying. I am most bored by crowds and shallow interaction.
I don't think that most people are actually that shallow. The reason shallow interaction occurs is because there's a setting where they can't hear me speak (I speak in a whisper) and so I can't get them to open up about things that are interesting. Most people, if I get them alone or in a quieter atmosphere, I can get them talking about their real interests.
But without my voice, other people lead the conversation and they're not as, well..brave .. or open.. as I am.

my housemates are going to this sensory deprivation tank thing sometime soon. i’d be interested in that. that seems like the least boring way to play around with boredom

My best friend did this! I'm really excited to try this one day.

[asmodeus, king of demons]

when you see someone who's super sad do you tell them to just stop it?
 
boredom is more on the level of an emotional sensation, than anything else

[Elsie]

@Puffs yes! gotta buck-up and suck-up, unless you're 2yrs old

[Animal]

when you see someone who’s super sad do you tell them to just stop it?
boredom is more on the level of an emotional sensation, than anything else

This makes sense. To be fair, I wouldn't tell someone to just stop it if they said they were bored. I was just agreeing with Elsie that it's what crosses my mind even if I would never say that to someone in the moment, out of empathy. I only said it here for the sake of an honest discussion on the topic.
But now I'm curious. If it's an emotional sensation like 'sadness,' is boredom... an emotion?

[asmodeus, king of demons]

it's an emotional reaction to the state of one's environment. if the world around you and the things happening to you in it are sad than you feel sad. if they are good then you feel happy. if they are boring you feel bored.
 
the switch gets flipped for you. all you can do is try and make things happen that have a chance at changing the emotional content of the environment.

[asmodeus, king of demons]

"is boredom… an emotion?"
(someone help what is code for quotes)
 
i've always thought so.
 
but i've always processed most things by their emotional content and i process/view emotional content as a form of physical sensation.

[Animal]

“is boredom… an emotion?”
(someone help what is code for quotes)

rawr

[Animal]

it’s an emotional reaction to the state of one’s environment. if the world around you and the things happening to you in it are sad than you feel sad. if they are good then you feel happy. if they are boring you feel bored.
the switch gets flipped for you. all you can do is try and make things happen that have a chance at changing the emotional content of the environment.

This is so foreign to me. Maybe it's Fi, maybe it's enneagram 4. I don't know. But for me the emotional content isn't always... related to the environment. There's a whole emotional drama inside me, which sometimes is related to the environment and sometimes isn't.

[Tea]

I don't think Pe leads get bored in the classical sense. We are too self entertained for that. Where I see us getting bored is with mundane routine. I can escape that by making a game of it or thinking of something else.
Alone in a *white* room might make me panic aesthetically though. I have a strong repulsion to bright white.

[Animal]

@teatime

I don’t think Pe leads get bored in the classical sense. We are too self entertained for that.

That was exactly what I thought!
However what I'm discovering is that this may be PeFi specifically. We have the Fi 'inner world.'
What do you think?

Where I see us getting bored is with mundane routine. I can escape that by making a game of it or thinking of something else.

This is exactly me too, making it into a game, or a dance, etc.

[asmodeus, king of demons]

emotions are always tied to the environment.
environment may be a bit of a nebulous term i'm using though. by environment i mean more or less anything out of one's direct control.
to that end, someone's very heart could be considered an environmental element (since we say "my heart stopped" not "i stopped my heart")
i don't see a way for emotions to not connect to the environment. the point of emotions is to trigger the responses needed to survive our environments -- both physical and social. the way we use and handle and understand emotions is completely shaped by the environments we pass through in our growth and life.
 
emotions are almost purely environmental, imo

[Animal]

 the way we use and handle and understand emotions is completely shaped by the environments we pass through in our growth and life.

Then why does typology exist?
Do you believe type is something you're born with?
If so, that implies that given the same or similar environment, different people would respond differently.

[Hrafn]

I've definitely been bored before, but I don't get bored very easily. I feel like I usually have the opposite problem, where I get too absorbed by what I'm doing or my own thoughts, and let too much time slip by when there's other stuff I'm meant to do/supposed to do.
I certainly have an "inner world," although I don't love this term (for some reason it makes me feel a bit pretentious). I suspect people of all types have "inner worlds".
I do get restless sometimes, and I suppose this can be related to boredom. Like if I begin to imagine how much fun it sounds to be in place Y doing thing Z if I weren't currently involved with thing X. Occasionally I've gotten pretty intense FOMO. All this seems to me like it relates to conscious Ne--imagining alternatives, having my attention dispersed over a wide geographical area rather than concentrated in one place. Yet this experience for me has a different tone than actual boredom.
 

This is so foreign to me. Maybe it’s Fi, maybe it’s enneagram 4. I don’t know. But for me the emotional content isn’t always… related to the environment. There’s a whole emotional drama inside me, which sometimes is related to the environment and sometimes isn’t.

My emotional experiences definitely don't always track with the environment....Certainly, events in my life affect my emotional state in various ways, but my mood more generally also sort of seems to have its own volition. Same thing with my day-to-day "life-energy" or state of consciousness (I wish I had a better term).
But this brings me to something I've long had never quite understood about CT and Jungian typology more generally: I have lots of emotional states that don't presuppose judgments in and of themselves. I mean, most emotions could be connected with latent judgments in that have different degrees of positivity or negativity. Yet a lot of the time I experience emotions as flowing, long-wavelength states that don't necessarily require any sort of "rational" resolution. In my experience, emotions are closely linked to other somatic experiences. Like I often experience tension around my neck & shoulders, and over time I've noticed a clear link with various feelings of stress.  In other words, it's not quite clear to me why emotionality is so closely ascribed to the Judgment oscillation. I'm no neurologist but I know that many processes in the brain have connections with the limbic system.

[Animal]

In other words, it’s not quite clear to me why emotionality is so closely ascribed to the Judgment oscillation. I’m no neurologist but I know that many processes in the brain have connections with the limbic system.

@Hrafn
You do have a point here. It's just that Fe and Fi people speak so noticeably, obviously differently about themselves. It's usually pretty clear which side of the spectrum someone falls on based on the way they speak about, and express, emotion. Hard to explain or justify in words though 🙁 but i guess that's what vultology is for.
It probably isn't tied to "emotion" itself, but something about how it's being processed in the mind. If those are even separate.

[asmodeus, king of demons]

Do you believe type is something you’re born with?

sure, but regardless of type an individual's emotional processing is still largely dependent on their upbringing and life circumstances.

If so, that implies that given the same or similar environment, different people would respond differently.

i put it to you even further in that direction that not only would different people respond differently, but that people of similar types given different past environments would have different emotional reactions to similar current environments. in which case again the idea is that emotions are environmental (not necessarily typological).

[asmodeus, king of demons]

even something as simple as fear.
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i'm afraid (emotion!) of developing new relationships (environmental interaction in question!) because of the toxicity of the most recent intimate relationships i've given a go (past environmental interactions influencing the emotion felt!)
 
will all NeTis have the same emotional reaction to developing relationships? No, because many NeTis will likely not have had my environmental experiences.
will some non-NeTi folks feel something similar for similar reasons? almost certainly yes -- i've even met quite a few myself.

[Animal]

@puffs
Then why do my brother and I process emotions completely differently and have absolutely opposite personalities? We both grew up with the same parents, went to the same schools and had many of the same experiences. Yet you could not meet two people who are more different.
The difference in our personalities is visibly apparent in our baby pictures, and although we've been through a lot of experiences by now, you can still see the same basic personality in each of us, that was always there.

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