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  • Geas Rua
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    • Type: NeTi
    • Development: llll
    • Attitude: Adaptive

    I thought it would be interesting to start a thread where we focus on typing each half of a couple and putting them side by side 🙂

    [Original/Redacted] Neil Gaiman SiTe I-I- [Seelie]

    [2nd/ Redacted] Neil Gaiman SiFe III- [Directive]

    Current (but still largely un-confident in this typing, will need to come back and look at him again sometime in the future): Neil Gaiman TiSe III- [Directive]:

    Amanda Palmer TeSi III- [Unseelie]

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    Animal
    Participant
    • Type: SeFi
    • Development: lll-
    • Attitude: Unseelie

    Amanda Palmer bought the piano I wanted! I first saw it when I was 15, in Boston; and any time I was there over the years, I checked up on it. I would call and ask about it too. They told me someone famous had their eye on it and I guessed that it was her! They asked how I knew. I said she plays the same keyboard as me at her shows and I knew she lived around there. 😀 Lucky intuitive guess on my part. Damn those Te’s getting what I want! 😀

    She does strike me as TeSi, I think. Strong Delta Ne Eccentricity, but Te ‘substantiality’ and heavy-handedness. Even the way she plays piano, it’s Bam Bam Bam.

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    Celeste
    Participant
    • Type: NeFi
    • Development: lll-
    • Attitude: Unseelie

    John Krasinski TiSe II-I

    Emily Blunt FiSe II–

    Lovely couple that problably works so well since both of them are Introverted Judgers who share the same middle functions.

    (I’m pretty sure about their types but not so much the developements, so take that with a grain of salt.)

    • Type: FiNe
    • Development: l---
    • Attitude: Unseelie

    Hmmm… I think Emily Blunt is on the Ne-Si axis, and probably on the Ti-Fe axis as well…

    She might be TiNe/dev. II-I/directive (Alanis Morissette shade)…

    Celeste
    Participant
    • Type: NeFi
    • Development: lll-
    • Attitude: Unseelie

    I really can’t see Ne/Si nor Ti/Fe. She doesn’t have Ti pupeteer hands like Krasinski, also there’s Se eye toggling and Ni eyebrow rising that seem very obvious to me. Also she’s similar to Sophie Turner whom I believe is an FiSe too.

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    Geas Rua
    Moderator
    • Type: NeTi
    • Development: llll
    • Attitude: Adaptive

    After taking some time to look over John and Emily (and doing another pass on Neil, think I finally got him lol), I see Emily as TiSe III- [Directive] and John as FeSi III- [Adaptive].

    Just my two cents 🙂

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    Celeste
    Participant
    • Type: NeFi
    • Development: lll-
    • Attitude: Unseelie

    Interesting how we all have different opinions on their types but definitely agree on the attitude of their first function, lol.I’ll try to take a look at the interviews again but this time with your assessments in mind

    • Type: FiNe
    • Development: l---
    • Attitude: Unseelie

    Btw, I don’t get that receding (Ji) core from Krasinski (nor a Je core)… Rather a clamping and framing of Pe energy by Ji and Je… Energetically-wise, he seems more SeTi/dev. III-/adaptative… But he really is a tricky case, due to a certain “poise” (might be double J embedded in a P-lead structure…)

    Geas Rua
    Moderator
    • Type: NeTi
    • Development: llll
    • Attitude: Adaptive

    Stumbled across a very heartwarming couple I’d like to share: Kristen Bell and Dax Shepard.

    I’ll start with Dax since I came across his clip first, which then led me to Kristen, although I had never paid any attention to either of them prior to stumbling across these clips on YouTube. (Also the interviewer is excellent, but I am unsure on his type as it’s difficult to get a clear picture from just a few seconds at a time.)

    Dax Shepard: SeTi / III- / Adaptive

    Kristen Bell: TiSe / II-I / Adaptive

    Although I’m not a fan of this ‘style’ of show in general, I thought it would be fitting to include a clip of them together (and talk shows and publicity interviews are the only things available besides their shared podcast, which runs quite long); this is the best one I could find and shows the ‘trickster’ style they have with each other in interviews:

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    fayest42
    Participant
    • Type: FiNe
    • Development: ll--
    • Attitude: Unseelie

    Hi! I’m new here, and I was practicing reading people’s vultology with Kristen Bell. I searched her name in the forum to see if anyone else had already typed her, and I found this post. I was really surprised to see her typed as TiSe! The one thing I was confident about from my reading was that she was a Je-lead. Could you explain what led you to type her as TiSe? In videos that I saw of her, I saw head nods, head shakes, shoulder shrugs, and pointed emphasis.

    From a psychological standpoint, it would also surprise me if she was TiSe because I’ve heard her talk multiple times about how Dax has taught her to be more analytical and think things through more logically – which I would expect a Ti-lead to already do naturally.

    Cedar
    Participant
    • Type: FiNe
    • Development: lll-
    • Attitude: Seelie

    I swear there used to be a forum thread that mentioned Kristen Bell. It had her as an Fi that had been taught to smile as Fe. Maybe it was from the .net version?

    Anyways, I think it is just as important to look at how people show up in life as that would show how they metabolize information. When body movements match behavior, there would be agreement. When they don’t align, why? These two have always communicated that they are “polar opposites”. Wouldn’t that imply that their functions are not matched and shuffled? They have difficulty understanding the motivations of each other and choose to work to find connection.

    I listen to The Armchair Expert, a lot, and agree that Dax is an SeTi in both movement and behavior. Kristen talks about how she trust him on the motorcycle with their little girls because he becomes one with the machine, instantly in a flow state. The entire show is peppered with information that would back up that type as well. Additional info, he self identifies as a realist and pessimist.

    As for Kristin, her superpower is empathy. She’s also very into natural as being more ethical than conventional products. She has a high moral bar and is unwilling to let others take over and her claim ignorance. Whereas Dax can be swayed by a good argument, she has a very strong morality. She self identifies as an optimist and idealist. It would seem odd to me that she would have Fe as her inferior function while being so in touch with these features. Or, maybe the Fe description isn’t fleshed out enough to encompass this. Is it a healthy human feature, or Introverted vs Extroverted Feeling? She is also honest about her struggles with codependency, depression and anxiety. How would this play into how she appears? How she communicates, self-regulates, etc.? (These are more rhetorical questions that aren’t necessarily looking for answers.)

    Geas Rua
    Moderator
    • Type: NeTi
    • Development: llll
    • Attitude: Adaptive

    Will be brief as I’m relegated to just the phone currently and away from home/PC, but my conscience was nagging me to at least attempt a brief correction to what is likely another one of my numerous vultological errors (and ofc all my attempts at vultology are those of an amateur and could do with a good dose of salt applied to them). But yeah, using her Hot Ones episode as the reference point, the baseline energetic for Kristen Bell appears to be FiPe (I—I). Her baseline is Ji poise and rigidity together with lots of pointed emphasis to her hand gestures, and also a good amount of Je’s projecting hands and forwardness/full body coordination to their movements. But the hands have a jitteriness to them I’ve come to associate with Te, as well as being in tandem with the sassy, shovel-chin head shakes of Te, and her smile certainly rises into muscles near the nose that are past the point of Ti-Fe smiles, while being overall more zygomatic than quite a few other Fi users’ smiles.

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    fayest42
    Participant
    • Type: FiNe
    • Development: ll--
    • Attitude: Unseelie

    Rondo, it sounds like we were seeing many of the same things. I wasn’t sure if I was seeing Fe or Te though. I saw an upward smile that would suggest Fi and some sassy head movements that would suggest Te, but I also saw quite a bit of coordinated emphasis that would suggest Fe. And if I depart from vultology and look at psychology directly, she seems very Fe to me (though maybe I could be mistaking Fi for Fe – any suggestions on how to tell the difference?). I also saw a lot of Je stuff, so I thought Je-lead rather than Ji-lead. What do you see that leads to the conclusion of being Ji over Je?

    fayest42
    Participant
    • Type: FiNe
    • Development: ll--
    • Attitude: Unseelie

    I’m reviving this thread because Auburn recently did a soft reading of both Dax Shepard and Kristen Bell. He typed Dax as “NeFi l-l- / SeFi l-l-.” I haven’t looked closely at his vultology myself, but his psychology seems to fit Se-lead well (though he did start out in improv, which would also fit Ne-lead). Auburn typed Kristen as TeSi l— or l-l-, which fits with my initial reading of her as a Je-lead. I initially thought her psychology seemed more Fe than Te, but that was back when I was just starting to learn about CT, and my understanding of the psychology of Fe was more based on MBTI stuff. I was going by these things that she and Dax have said about her:

    1 – She feels a need to be liked by everyone

    2 – She is very driven by morality and she is involved in a lot of charity work

    3 – She’s the type of person to pull over while driving to help a homeless person

    4 – She assumes the best of people

    5 – Dax has taught her to be more analytical and think things through more logically

    Having more experience with CT now, I recognize that these things (at least the first 4) are not at all unusual for a Te-lead, perhaps especially one who is seelie, which I think she is.  In fact, I now suspect that Dax and her viewing each other as polar opposites is probably mostly related to Dax being unseelie and Kristen being seelie. I am still slightly surprised that a Te-lead would view themselves as someone who wasn’t very analytical and didn’t think things through with logic though.

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