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[Bera]

Very interesting !! And thank you for taking the time to type these people. I was really curious about Frank Herbert after George Martin's typing and after talking to Rondo about him.
Katheryn Winnick is one of the most badass women I ever saw and she plays Lagertha very well too. She is a combination of a strong woman with extraordinary combat skills who can also look fantastic when she wears a fancy dress. 🙂 I thought she might be Beta but I didn't know her exact type. I think she was very well cast for that role.
I wonder if Geralt of Rivia is the same type but I will open a thread for him, since he is a game character and not a person.
I didn't realize Natalie Dormer is SeFi; I thought she is FeNi or TeNi. Since she has her characteristic smirk/snarling smile, I thought TeNi was more probable for her, but now I can actually see she is SeFi. I always, always pictured her in court dresses. :)) But I guess even if you see her in long, elegant, royal dresses, her energy is pretty much the same.
Regarding Frank Herbert - I think what he says about power attracting the corruptible is one of the major themes in Dune but, to be honest, I read only part of the books and this was very long ago.

@rondo proposed FeNi for him and I actually thought I saw some Ni themes in the books.
His eyes and brows look very much like those of Si leads though. This puzzles me a little. There is so much talk about prophecies, recurrence, the use of a mind altering substance...oh, wait.
There is an order of women in the books - the Bene Gesserit. It's an organization concerned with politics and with genetic selection in order to produce the Kwisatz Haderach, a type of Messiah/Chosen One.
Reverend Mothers of the Bene Gesserit Order could access the Other Memory, that consisted in all memories of all their female ancestors and of other Reverend Mothers that shared their memories with them...and of their female ancestors. This actually looks like an Si theme. It is connected both to Si Indexing and Modularity and Si Collections. The Order is also highly dogmatic and relies heavily on ceremonies.
Look :

Min contributes to the preservation of important traditions, religions and cultures –reminding us of our need for stability and for never losing sight of where we’ve come from and just how far we’ve traveled. But more than that, Min brings the wisdom of the past into the present and revitalizes society with centuries of knowledge.

And (this is from Wikipedia but I will also look for quotes from the books) :

Reverend Mothers may also pass their own ego/memory combination to other Reverend Mothers at will, merely by touching foreheads. When a Reverend Mother dies in the presence of another Reverend Mother, the second will accept the ego/memory of the first to prevent the loss of the dying Reverend Mother's experience and ancestral memories. Especially when the Mother Superior perishes, it is important to take her ego/memory so that her plans and strategies may continue uninterrupted. 
Under extreme conditions, a large community of Bene Gesserit will practice Extremis Progressiva, a mass sharing of ego/memories with each other to spread all the ego/memories amongst everyone; thus, if one survives, they all survive (!).

This is amazing. I am also curious what you think, @rondo ! Also, @elsie - you watched Dune - the movie, maybe you have some ideas about Fe and Si themes that appear in it (though I don't know how faithful it is to the books)

@alerith - we also talked about Mikhaila Peterson on the chat a couple of months ago and thought she might be FeNi. She looks like a beta anyway, I think.