Reply To: About Se - Locked on Eyes

[Bera]

@Animal

My family mocks me for missing what’s right in front of me…. this has been an ongoing joke in my family.

Exactly ! I simply don't see many things that are right in front of my nose. And I think I am still looking at them in a focused way. But I am mostly thinking about something completely different, that has no connection to what is in front of me.

I could not draw a lot of simple things, like “a clown,”  “the Empire State Building” (I live in NY) …. because I could not think of a visual marker or how that thing looked.

Same here ! I have 0 drawing skills, despite having good taste and an appreciation for beauty. I can imagine all sorts of situations and I can visualize complex images in vivid colors and with a dreamy vibe...BUT I can just imagine them, I can not properly remember real details of real objects in the real world. This extends to people and to their faces. Even loved ones. When I remember them, I don't usually visualize them, I just remember things they said or did and then immediately go from memories to exploring possible ideas connected to them and to imagining scenarios in which they take part (where how they look is completely irrelevant, the scenario is like a story, it's not image based though images can appear now and then).

We may or may not care about gossip, but we notice what people are up to, who is gravitating to who etc. We just see the contours of reality in front of us as it unfolds.

I can usually see this too ! It's a useful skill. But I only tend to pay attention to the stuff that directly impacts me or the people I care about. It can be pretty complex though and it can involve whole group dynamics, since everyone is connected to everyone. 🙂 But if I am not impacted in any way, I generally don't pay attention to these things, so, for example, I don't read articles containing gossip about celebrities. It's too far removed from my life.
Regarding Pi leads and Pi conscious people - they seem to have better general orientation. @Staas mentioned this at some point. I also have a friend who is most probably TeNi and who draws very well. She seems to see things in perspective, which I don't. 🙂 But of course this also depends on talent and on practicing until you master a skill.

@Ivory

When I am ‘in the (Se) flow,’ I don’t see the world around me as separate items. There is no distinction made between items, because.. flow. Making any sort of assessment of things puts me out of the flow.

This makes a lot of sense. It feels as if everything is connected to everything else and happening in a sequence and pretty fast. And it's hard to think about particular objects taken out of the flow.
But I can be in the flow while looking at beautiful images. There is a certain state I can reach in which admiring beautiful images IS the flow. But in order for this to happen I need peace of mind and a consistent image input.