TLDR; no, so i'm going to talk about myself,
less so much about replying to this thread, as contributing-whatever content to CT project
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@Alexander the Less
it sounds like self-control is important to you.
are you talking about bodily-excitation/coordination or temperance/moderation?
something else?
i will consider some
also: why is calm composure important? to whom, specifically?
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- Do you feel like you lack self control? If yes, how do you experience this out-of-control state?
"out of control" doesn't make sense to me, both in the objects around me that i manage, and myself
i can look nutso. that does not line up with internal experiences and it is deliberate, for the pows. things around can look nuts too but its all heading in one direction to me.
i'm the last person whose gonna go off the rails regardless of how many firecrackers there are.
i wrangle things [external] into boxes or blast them away but reduction is the name of the game. ofc, one cannot control everything in the entire world, so that is why prioritize. i'm sure that people/brains are the same way. conscious/unconscious divisions...
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i have an inkling that this "out of control Pe-ness" and struggles could be applied to Ne behaviourisms, rather than Se or joint-Pe
a shot in the dark tho, and i am very-biased,
i have struggled to relate to the other Pes regarding this topic and similar,
i cannot cite age-gap or circumstances
Pes, get ur legs and other limbs into this thread plz
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- On calmness, do you often find that you get wildly revved up while with certain people?
i would say i rev myself up and do the revving, ppl are dead-fish in comparison.
there are abrupt transitions inbetween "calm" and "excited", it's like a dance. (regular-olde Pe vultology imho)
i believe this was commented on in my typing videos also [shifts].
but energeticly, abrupt also. i feel that psychologically.
be that stabbing-abrupt or play-abrupt, scarcely a difference, then stop moving again
i know i am grounded but also mow-over things and get stuff moving. some people consider that lack of self-control because the situation is "unstable" (ofc, it is meant to be, you cant re-arrange something without knocking it off its feet first...so to say...)
if we have not met yet (@Alexander the Less), welcome, i am a boat, i've been here-and-there in CT for a while. i don't appear very often, so don't expect the conversation to continue with me present, after this. i just drop it and go
boats, ships...my point is, that there is a centre, a self-righting mechanism, a direction/intention/goal or whatnot.
picture a ice-ploughing ship tearing at the ocean flats,
ice flings everywhere, chaos and crushing,
those things are external, rearranged, the ship is forging a path, everything is stripped and sorted,
and then in that path there is a route formed, water between a hard ice wall, of which ushers in [new] smaller specialized boat fleets from behind
(@Auburn , pe>je prolly, even tho premeditated, it's still establishing something new with the little worker-ships),
impacts=not out of control, in these ideas. as in, measured
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- Do you ever find yourself wanting to conduct yourself in a more measured manner but seemingly unable to do?
no, i can't say that's ever happened, i'm happy with how i come-across as far as interactions go, hobby of mine
i get the feeling i may be taking this very literally/bodily on one side. for instance, sneezing or tearing-eyes as a lack of control. movements and action. lol that's all i can compare it to, outta ideas
i put everything into what i do, i dont come for no-reason, and i don't intend to leave without getting something done, either
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so a question i can throw back out there to the Pe-crowd is...
with a (commonly talked-about) lack of self-control in Pes, do you still consider yourselves to be self-posessed?
i think that might change a few people's thoughts around
some terms i'd like to cleave:
. self control
. self posession
. self regulation
. self expression
you guys can do that

I don't have a problem with self control generally; rather I think that I can have too much of if, but there were moments in my life when I lost it for a bit, but not totally. The way I image total loss of self control for me is scary, close to madness, but maybe I'm referring to a different loss of self control here. If what you were referring to as lack of self control is a weak ability to keep your shit together under pressure, then also yes, I tend to lack this.