Reply To: Se & Pleasure?

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@bera

I think we have a duty to make an impact on the world and that just enjoying pleasurable experiences can keep us from realizing our true potential. To me too much involvement in pleasing activities with no meaning (impact) is selfish and unproductive. I know it’s not (!!!) but this is exactly how it looks like from my perspective and I must make an effort of empathy to understand people who favor pleasure as in a pleasant life, good food, comfort, a good night’s sleep, high quality of irrelevant goods, a perfect home and all that stuff. To me these things are a huge waste of time. And what matters is indeed that we make an impact on other people’s lives.
Other things matter too, for example knowing ourselves and understanding the world. Here I am just comparing the importance I give to sensual pleasure vs. our impact on the world.

Bingo. This is exactly how it is for me too.  And Socionics would call this Si 'ignoring' - which applies to Se leads.
It would be different for JiSe, according to their theory. Since they theorize that everyone has access to all eight functions, but only values four- each function has a specific place in each person.
For JiSe, it's easy for them to access both Si and Se - so they may theoretically be bigger pleasure seekers, because it doesn't directly conflict with their FIRST function. The ignoring function for FiSe is Fe, and the ignoring function for TiSe is Te.  I think Auburn does a good job covering, in the Ti description, how they "ignore" Te - by thinking that outside impositions on their life are meaningless, like school and certifications --  because they don't hold intrinsic value, and the Ti mind is fixated on their own internal 'order' and things they place value upon. Therefore, Te ignoring is spelled out in the Ti description Auburn wrote.
But in the Se description, Se is mostly merged with Si stuff - and there's no deeper explanation for how we don't value Si, how we need to push that away in order to remain in our own "Se space" since this is our primary M.O.
YOU spelled it out perfectly in this quote here.