Self-Discovery the Jungian Way (Michael Daniels)

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April 17, 2022 at 11:23 am #30957
Lapis Lazuli
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- Type: SiFe
- Development: l-l-
- Attitude: Unknown
Several weeks ago, someone posted the link http://watchwordtest.com/ on a Discord server I was reading. It's a Jungian-inspired tool for self analysis first published in 1992 by Michael Daniels in his book Self-Discovery the Jungian Way: The Watchword Technique.

First of all, what was fascinating about seeing this come up is that I knew I had seen it before, and I eventually realized that the technique had been used by one of my psychoanalysts with me as a kid. This would have probably been in the mid-to-late 80s, well before Daniels published his book, meaning that whoever my therapist was, they must have had some association with the author (and were also quite on the fringes of clinical psychology :-D). [Note to @Auburn: Emojis don't seem to be working--the menu comes up blank when I click the emjoi icon.]

But more importantly, in going through the exercise again, I was quite amazed at how well it brought up important themes in my life, both long-term and current. I've been trying to get in the habit of doing the exercise whenever I wake up (when my "mind is clear", as the Daniels recommends) and I have time for it (which is only been about once a week), but even with just a few samples so far, it's been very interesting to see themes emerge at certain positions within the matrix (especially at the center) over time. I would be very interested in hearing whether anyone else has similar experiences with it, assuming this has piqued your interest.

Part of the analysis includes assessing Jungian type based on the synthesized words within the matrix. This requires a subjective evaluation of each word as either introverted or extraverted, sensing or intuitive and feeling or thinking. However, for a more objective typing, I've been plugging my words into this classifier: https://www.uclassify.com/browse/g4mes543/myers-briggs-type-indicator-text-analyzer?input=Text Normally it is recommended that one use a large sample of written text consisting of thousands of words, but in this particular case, the words in the Watchword matrix are presumed to be very significant, so there's reason to suppose that this could be an accurate method of typing oneself in MBTI terms. If nothing else, it's at least objective.

Interestingly, my results are pretty consistently INFP according to the classifier. While that doesn't correspond to my CT type (soft-typed SiTe I---), it's at least in the right Quadra and agrees with my CT introversion. It's also what I've tended to test as on the MBTI and similar questionnaires. I would be interested in hearing what results others who have been typed in CT get.
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April 17, 2022 at 3:43 pm #30964
fayest42
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- Type: FiNe
- Development: ll--
- Attitude: Unseelie
Well, I'm always a sucker for new psychological assessments I was skeptical of this one at first because I don't really think that whatever random words first pop into my head have much meaning, but I think that a lot of meaning comes out when you start forming associations between the words. And I was pretty amazed by how the words/phrases that ended up in the middle box were some of the most fundamental things I've been struggling with lately. And although typing yourself based on this assessment is a subjective judgement, I do think my words in the middle box fit the qualities they assign to INFP.

As for the text analyzer, I don't put a whole lot of stock into it for CT purposes. When I put my words from the Watchword test into it, I got ENTJ. I've also used the text analyzer before on some longer written things of mine, and I almost always get INTJ. I know the text analyzer was created based on people's self-typing, so it's probably not likely to correspond to CT type, but it may actually have some validity in picking out MBTI stereotypes. In MBTI world I always typed myself as INTP, but INTJ is not too far off, and the P vs J dichotomy was always the one I was least confident about.

(Side note: Just for fun, I put the text I just wrote here into the text analyzer, and I got INTJ again (67%). INTP was second at 11%. When I added this side note to it, it went up to 83% INTJ)
April 17, 2022 at 3:47 pm #30965
fayest42
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- Type: FiNe
- Development: ll--
- Attitude: Unseelie
Oh, another interesting thing to note is that I think my unseelie-ness may have shown up in the words/phrases in the middle box because most of them were negative values (i.e. things I am trying to avoid rather than things I actually want).
April 19, 2022 at 5:14 pm #31046
Lapis Lazuli
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- Type: SiFe
- Development: l-l-
- Attitude: Unknown
Here's one that I did yesterday, when I thought I was in a relatively good mood, but it's by far the most negative one I've done yet since re-discovering this technique a few weeks ago--so negative that it's amusing. It's also relatively impersonal (at least I think it is), so I don't mind sharing it.

As I look over the associations I made, most of them look pretty inevitable, that is, I don't feel like there was tons of leeway in what direction I could have gone. It will be very interesting to see if it still looks that way when I revisit these in the future, or if I wonder WTF was I thinking?
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April 21, 2022 at 3:39 am #31073
Elsie
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- Type: SeFi
- Development: ll-l
- Attitude: Unseelie
saved from a while back. it's a very fun game.

first though i will put this here from the website

First Impressions
Now that you have completed the form, you can begin to interpret (1) your psychological type and (2) your personality dynamics.

Before doing this, however, reflect on your experience of making connections between your words. In particular, consider these questions:

Did you feel that, as you progressed through the exercise, you seemed to be tapping deeper and more psychologically meaningful layers of thought?
Do the eleven words that appear within the central rectangular outline seem in any way significant to you, perhaps when understood as metaphors or symbols of features in your life?
Do the final three words (battle,destiny,station) in particular seem to encapsulate or symbolize something very basic about your personality or present situation?
If you can answer ‘yes’ to these questions, then you should find the interpretive process interesting, relatively straightforward and, hopefully, informative. If, on the other hand, the words you have written seem trivial or meaningless, this does not necessarily indicate that the exercise has not ‘worked’ for you. It may mean, however, that the process of interpretation will require some effort on your part and a willingness to explore indirect or symbolic associations.

Key words: each key represents an important dynamic in your psychological world or situation.
http://watchwordtest.com/wdynamics.aspx - structural principles
How to assess: http://watchwordtest.com/wwtype.aspx

Myers Briggs Type Indicator Text analyzer:
https://www.uclassify.com/browse/g4mes543/myers-briggs-type-indicator-text-analyzer?input=Text
ENTJ51% ISTP31%
INFP5%
INFJ5%
ESTP4%
ENFP1%
ENTP1%
INTP1%
ESTJ0%
ISFP0%
ESFP0%
INTJ0%
ISTJ0%
ISFJ0%
ENFJ0%
ESFJ

guide - bonnet [car-hood]
soul - engine
shadow - circulation
giant - engineering
battle - exhaust (vehicle)
destiny - fixing
station - toolkit
dwarf - airflow
imago - improvements
persona - DIY
spectre - outside

guide - gazelle
soul - narrow
shadow - pen
giant - survival
battle - god
destiny - crusade
station - marching
dwarf - design
imago - recall [returning]
persona - army
spectre - helicopter

guide - immense
soul - mountain
shadow - ancient
giant - power
battle - pharaoh
destiny - dust
station - exploding
dwarf - archeology
imago - anvil
persona - smashing
spectre - quarry

guide - teeth
soul - serrated
shadow - skating [ice]
giant - burning
battle - cutting
destiny - vengeance
station - pain
dwarf - slicing
imago - telepathy
persona - brain
spectre - fraying

guide - journey
soul - trendsetter
shadow - fashion
giant - adventure
battle - keepsake (trinket)
destiny - vision
station - leader
dwarf - brooch
imago - knight
persona - dragon
spectre - treasure

guide - mermaid
soul - harpy
shadow - punishment
giant - underworld
battle - extermination
destiny - possession
station - seduction
dwarf - discipline
imago - poltergeist
persona - beauty
spectre - innocence

guide - bountyhunter
soul - vigilante
shadow - lawless
giant - assassin
battle - shiv
destiny - opportunity
station - pillager
dwarf - prison
imago - hunter
persona - estate-agent
spectre - home

guide - scuba-diving
soul - plesiosaurus https://youtu.be/mkw593Qa19U
shadow - boss-battle
giant - atlantis
battle - technology
destiny - arsenal
station - harpoon
dwarf - multitool
imago - legacy
persona - sword
spectre - utensil
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September 23, 2022 at 10:01 am #31847
Rickus
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- Type: SeFi
- Development: l-l-
- Attitude: Seelie
Well for what its worth I got ISFJ, which is quite different from my cognitive type but its interesting
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