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Ninth replied to the topic Soft Readings: VII in the forum Vultology & Learning Center

Tue, 27 Oct 2020 10:09:55 +0000

Ninth replied to the topic How do you experience nostalgia? in the forum The General Hall

Tue, 27 Oct 2020 09:15:59 +0000

And Ash you mentioned Se users being very nostalgic.

That surprised me. Before this thread was a thing, I had linked my lack of nostalgia to Se, because I thought it had a different framing. Well, also because I'm surrounded by Ne/Si, but sure my sampling is biased. Do the Se/Ni users in CT usually experience nostalgia?

I agree with «Pi somewhat…Read more

Ninth replied to the topic How do you experience nostalgia? in the forum The General Hall

Mon, 26 Oct 2020 07:35:57 +0000

[...] are all only in the present ‘me’ only insofar as their affects have shaped me and my life, but so very few of them still maintain a reality of their own, a clear vision, or a vivid experience, in my mind and heart. I simply do not have enough information data points in my mind to relive them. They are mostly experienced as a dream that has…

Ninth replied to the topic About You? in the forum Official & Introductions

Sun, 25 Oct 2020 09:30:34 +0000

I still wonder how someone (anyone?) knew... But some things are better left unsaid.

Ninth replied to the topic Can I make my unconscious functions conscious? in the forum The General Hall

Sat, 24 Oct 2020 20:06:19 +0000

I'm not sure that having a function developed in CT equals having it integrated.
(Question: does integration mean something in CT?)

Sometimes you have to "bear" yourself before you can "join" yourself.

Ninth replied to the topic Se/Ne/Pe & Clumsiness? in the forum The General Hall

Sat, 24 Oct 2020 19:50:30 +0000

I only noticed taxi drivers are inclined to... talk. And if you're not talkative, they go for the weather-routine questions. Why.

You also mean Pe-leads with Pi-dev, for example? Or only types with both Pi and Je dev'ed/modulated?
I think you could be right, but I need to pay attention to it in the future.

I met some taxi-drivers who had a…Read more

Ninth replied to the topic About You? in the forum Official & Introductions

Sat, 24 Oct 2020 19:24:05 +0000

at least your gay hamsters died together

OMG @bera that knocked me down! So wholesome!
But then I slippidyslipped on the rip-rope: «wait; we don't know, actually...»

Ninth replied to the topic About You? in the forum Official & Introductions

Sat, 24 Oct 2020 17:48:08 +0000

Hi! This is my introduction. And I can’t un-bold this paragraph for some unknown reason.

i can't unblod that too, the hell did you do

I am 25 as of 2020 and I’m afraid of getting old.

I used to have a pair of gay hamsters at my flat

@kevin-horas please, what?

I mean: welcome.

Ninth replied to the topic Redefining "E" in the forum Model 1 Discussions

Thu, 22 Oct 2020 15:52:55 +0000

I'm waiting for this series to be complete before I dive in it, but I'm having a quick glance at it in the meanwhile.

Having a flow between data input and output

I noticed this because I recently joined a club for practicing communication & leadership skills and I introduced myself as a very introverted person, but from my impromptu speech they…Read more

Ninth replied to the topic How do you experience nostalgia? in the forum The General Hall

Thu, 22 Oct 2020 15:20:08 +0000

Is there a nostalgic experience you feel like sharing? / What is your personal experience of nostalgia most often like? / How often do you feel nostalgia?

I don't understand nostalgia. Every now and then I have to ask a psychologist to explain it to me again, because I tend to forget about that which I don't use (be it abstract or material;…Read more

Ninth replied to the topic How do you experience a "flow state"? in the forum Type Specific

Thu, 08 Oct 2020 09:50:05 +0000

I used to experience a flow state when I was a painter.
In fact, I would paint not because I had any artistic inclination but rather because it was an immersive experience during which I could "reorganize" everything in my head without conscious effort. Painting required attention to details; you also have to "feel" the brush and the brushstrokes…Read more

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Mon, 28 Sep 2020 16:48:29 +0000

Ninth replied to the topic Psychological Surveys in the forum General Psychology

Fri, 18 Sep 2020 10:44:23 +0000

For those who scored highest on a function that does not match their lead in vultology, what do you think of the result? - @Auburn

The output surprised me because I said right a few days ago: "I feel like I've been losing Pi and gaining Pe" (this last year). And they said: "a bit of Pe won't hurt you, honey!" ^^"
I've always been more Pi- than…Read more

Ninth replied to the topic Psychological Surveys in the forum General Psychology

Wed, 16 Sep 2020 21:52:59 +0000

Ninth replied to the topic Anthony Hopkins' type in the forum Vultology & Learning Center

Mon, 07 Sep 2020 21:45:08 +0000

First reaction: P-lead; Pi-lead. I then found myself checking the speed and it was set to normal. Second reaction: WTF?

I agree with you on Pe higher in the hierarchy; not so much for the sways, for me it's about the speed and the sudden gesticulation. I suspect a Je dev but I wouldn't say the same about more recent videos.

Ninth replied to the topic Temperament blends and cognitive types in the forum General Psychology

Fri, 26 Jun 2020 07:49:52 +0000

I don't want to discourage your attempt at correlating the two, I think it's a good thing. I was implicitly asking to know more about your reasonings behind the links you drew.
The reason why I think it can't be linear is that the 4T is rich of emotional attitudes, f.e. it can be easier with the enneatypes.

I guess everyone has a different result…

Ninth replied to the topic Temperament blends and cognitive types in the forum General Psychology

Wed, 24 Jun 2020 17:38:58 +0000

While this

Pi is Phlegmatic, Ji is Melancholic, Pe is Sanguine and Je is Choleric

may make sense in theory bc of energetics, I don't think it works just like that when it comes to types. There's developments, ego-fixation, heart-attitude, submersion, temperaments and things that go beyond CT that may influence the blending. I'm p.sure I've…Read more

Ninth replied to the topic Analysis of Gulekno's Cognitive Styles in the forum Jungian Systems

Mon, 22 Jun 2020 09:03:02 +0000

TiSe
Dynamic? / Involution

It's a veeery long thread so I still need to finish my reading, but I visited Gulenko's cognitive styles and I related to these two immediately.
Now, I'll keep reading (I will edit this post as I progress).

Ninth replied to the topic Se/Ne/Pe & Clumsiness? in the forum The General Hall

Sun, 21 Jun 2020 09:52:48 +0000

Se can sometimes have a kind of tunnel vision, right? Like an extreme focus? So perhaps Se can lead to clumsiness when you’re focused on the billboard you’re looking at and not the tree you’re about to run into, for example. Does that sound plausible to the Se people here?

@fayest42 yea, that's one.

Ninth replied to the topic What Has Being Typed Accurately Done for You? in the forum General Psychology

Sun, 21 Jun 2020 09:48:59 +0000

Yes I think the Intuitive bias is so deeply, deeply ingrained in the typing community, its really short-sighted and narrow-minded of them, ironic that they think sensing types are short-sighted and narrow-minded, I think its the opposite, at least for those having the intuitive bias. I must admit I had an intuitive bias myself, and always…

Ninth replied to the topic Dreams about Functions in the forum General Psychology

Sun, 21 Jun 2020 09:05:32 +0000

I had a super interesting dream (for me) at least 1y ago.

I was in the house where I live alone and where I used to project (irl) much of me, as I identified it as my safe private space.

I entered the door, and, on the right, I found a cig half-used on the floor; it was wet.
On the right, quite close to the wall, there was a rectangular white…Read more

Ninth replied to the topic What Has Being Typed Accurately Done for You? in the forum General Psychology

Mon, 08 Jun 2020 09:58:20 +0000

lol “Murder has also given me better insight to people in general” sounds funny, I have to admit that.

It’s made a difference.

Background: the social masks

tl;dr | social masks, people typed me N-dom, high Fe.

Since I learned about CT

i) I discovered the CTVC and made people who knew me use it on me: NeFi/FiN…Read more

Ninth replied to the topic Intelligence & Abstraction vs Association/N in the forum General Psychology

Fri, 05 Jun 2020 23:55:19 +0000

Ninth replied to the topic [GIF Library] Mixed Signals, Confusing Signals in the forum Vultology & Learning Center

Sat, 30 May 2020 14:57:57 +0000

Oh, ok, it's around 4:50!

Doesn't look like plateau velocity to me:

As a direct reflection of Te’s streamlined psychological attitude, its gesticulations are equally marked by briefness and quickness of execution. They will carry a different tempo than Fe’s gestures, being snippy in their delivery and earlier in their repetition.

[...]

It wil…

Ninth replied to the topic [GIF Library] Pi - Diagonal Drift in the forum Vultology & Learning Center

Sat, 30 May 2020 10:01:50 +0000

Ninth replied to the topic [GIF Library] Mixed Signals, Confusing Signals in the forum Vultology & Learning Center

Sat, 30 May 2020 09:40:10 +0000

Ekhart Tolle
@fayest42 I don't think it counts as a "mixed" signal because there's no such thing as "Si blinking eyes", but yes, it can be confusing because there's "Ni unblinking eyes" (but you don't need all the signals to be checked, afaik).
Unknown Guy
@janie Who's this? Would you mind sharing the video?

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Wed, 20 May 2020 17:23:09 +0000

Ninth replied to the topic [GIF Library] Mixed Signals, Confusing Signals in the forum Vultology & Learning Center

Tue, 19 May 2020 18:57:45 +0000

Ninth replied to the topic [GIF Library] Mixed Signals, Confusing Signals in the forum Vultology & Learning Center

Tue, 19 May 2020 14:53:09 +0000

Ninth replied to the topic [GIF Library] P - Eye Centric in the forum Vultology & Learning Center

Tue, 19 May 2020 14:34:16 +0000

Ninth replied to the topic Se/Ne/Pe & Clumsiness? in the forum The General Hall

Mon, 18 May 2020 14:36:31 +0000

MOVEMENT & BODY
* Dexterous vs. Uncoordinated - used to be very U as a child; I become U whenever I'm thinking deeply
* Graceful vs. Bullish
* Rapid speech vs. Slow, careful speech - unbelievably R when I feel that my thoughts were already organized (they often joke about this); S normally
* Rapid movement vs. Slow, careful movement - S normally

A…Read more

Ninth replied to the topic Hello World! in the forum The General Hall

Thu, 14 May 2020 15:05:06 +0000

Hmm. I think other SeNi users experiences must be taken into account because I’m a synaesthete, which affects my relationship with both sensory and abstract objects. I’ll try to filter that out, though, and to depict my experience as if we both ignored CT.

I’d say that I’m always looking for a “story” that connects things from the past to the…Read more

Ninth replied to the topic Hello World! in the forum The General Hall

Thu, 14 May 2020 11:31:13 +0000

I’d like to share with you one part of this article.

As a Pi function, Si has a long cycle of decay (L), keeping information schemas perpetually suspended in consciousness as a background process; providing context. These schemas are episodes from the past that have been stored as anecdotes, and which are brought back into awareness as they r…

Ninth replied to the topic Hello World! in the forum The General Hall

Wed, 13 May 2020 13:59:45 +0000

First, how do you do the cool quote thing? (I’m new to this).

DW, I'm not familiar with all the Format options either!

Third, what do I mean by episodic vs linear? Well, for instance, my wife remembers things in detail: this person did this, then that, and this happened. It’s like reading from a book. I remember things by association. Mem…

Ninth replied to the topic Hello World! in the forum The General Hall

Wed, 13 May 2020 12:10:39 +0000

LOL! It's always funny to see how people can write long posts while I need to make efforts to go beyond my usual single line. Welcome! 🙂

That’s how I perceive Si: routine, tradition, structure

From what I remember, structure is "J" even in MBTI. The association with routine and structure comes from the idea of what the J means in the f…Read more

Ninth replied to the topic Is the vultology theory somewhat self-confirming? in the forum Vultology & Learning Center

Wed, 13 May 2020 11:57:29 +0000

@singularity Hi! I'd like to ask you what you mean by these:
1) «and thus there is no room to learn behaviour»
2) «Upside is I can make a video showing the full range of mouth movements!»

Ninth replied to the topic Type My Partner! (possible TiNe IIII) in the forum Vultology & Learning Center

Sun, 03 May 2020 13:43:33 +0000

I checked the Pi dev, but I'm not experienced in Vultology, so... take that with a grain of salt. I agree that he's a Ti-lead.

Ninth replied to the topic Why are so many Pi-leads old? in the forum Model 1 Discussions

Fri, 24 Apr 2020 11:56:01 +0000

@fayest42

Typing a bunch of old people will not solve the mystery, but I don't even know if there is any: maybe the asymmetry in the database is due to the sampling itself.

Anyways. I thought that the implication here was that people would "switch" (vultologically) to Pi-leads as they reach the old age? That's where my suggestion (comparing…Read more

Ninth replied to the topic Why are so many Pi-leads old? in the forum Model 1 Discussions

Thu, 23 Apr 2020 19:31:00 +0000

@robert-mitchell Hm...I don't think I'm seeing the P-lead body motion. Also: 07:45.
But, why did you bring that up? (I didn't read all about page 1, so I might have missed something)

What if we make a collection of old people and type them?
Possibly, people that we could also type from their youth.

I mean, we may gather here and share and…Read more

Ninth replied to the topic Vultology Quiz #5 in the forum Vultology & Learning Center

Thu, 23 Apr 2020 10:58:01 +0000

Thanks for all of this @fayest42. Erasing names is frustrating, though. I like to see my progress (or failure) + rank (whether its bad or good), and I think participating means we are OK with the whole process, including the publication of results.

Edit: Please, could you send me mine in PM?

Same here 🙂

Ninth replied to the topic Vultology Quiz #5 in the forum Vultology & Learning Center

Fri, 17 Apr 2020 23:23:55 +0000

Wanna try :3

Ninth replied to the topic Link between memory and cognitive functions in the forum Model 1 Discussions

Mon, 13 Apr 2020 17:29:39 +0000

IDK if there's a correlation with the CF either, but (especially) this applies to me too:

I have a really good memory for peculiar things that happened in the past, much more than most people around me. Like the phrases a certain person would say, so much so that they wouldn’t even remember it but I would remember it just by being in their p…

Ninth replied to the topic I created a survey in the forum General Psychology

Mon, 13 Apr 2020 16:47:37 +0000

Hi @janie , hope it helped somehow. 🙂
(the 0/0 thing was a joke, sorry ^^")

Ninth replied to the topic I created a survey in the forum General Psychology

Mon, 13 Apr 2020 15:28:51 +0000

Done!

Total Score: 0/0

Not sure if I failed or -

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Ninth replied to the topic Ti: Emotional Shutoff in the forum Model 1 Discussions

Mon, 02 Mar 2020 17:23:34 +0000

Thanks @q for replying. I've got nothing else to say for now.

Hi @animal! :3

I stated that those were the types I got from [sources] precisely to avoid an unnecessary layer of ambiguity: I don't think any was conclusive.

But also, our typing in Enneatude was tentative and still in the works. We usually get to know someone and do a couple of…

Ninth replied to the topic Ti: Emotional Shutoff in the forum Model 1 Discussions

Mon, 02 Mar 2020 14:33:50 +0000

@q I'd like to ask you if you experience any change specifically when you're under stress, for two reasons:

the article is “Ti under stress” and you said «I can still see how the description is warped through a Ti/Fe lens», but
I can relate to what you've said (...)

I know what in my life I value and even covet – I have Fi-dar under the hoo…

Ninth replied to the topic Ti: Emotional Shutoff in the forum Model 1 Discussions

Mon, 02 Mar 2020 11:39:13 +0000

I can totally relate to the Emotional Shutoff thing but I'm also generally detached. As soon as I experience something emotional, I start "analyzing" it instead of feeling it; I may "feel" later in time, once I let myself do so. I don't trust emotions, that's why this happens.
Under stress, the shutoff is due to: dude, can't deal with so many…Read more

Ninth replied to the topic "Art" is not related to Ji nor "Variety" to Pe. in the forum Model 1 Discussions

Mon, 02 Mar 2020 11:23:20 +0000

I didn’t read everything because *information overload*, I’ll catch up later.

Came here to say that I don’t really care about Arts (Artistic Interest score on the B5: extremely low) and I don’t even wish to find and/or master a way to express myself (I’m actually learning to be a bit more expressive for the sake of social relations…Read more