Also, I don't know if I idealize Je.  It's more that I'm commenting on the way I've been my whole life. What I strive for, very actively, is to embody my ideals.  And those ideals are not particularly Je-ish. I just notice that in reality, all my life I have functioned more in a way that falls into the Je descriptions, although I am not p…Read more

@scientiam
I completely agree with you 🙂 and I love you Ti leads for being so good at summing this stuff up. 🙂

Can you explain why this is JiPi? (I think I agree, but I'd love if you can elaborate, if you don't mind..)

this is not all there is to one’s whole life (JiPi)

I mean, I have more staying power on these threads than the rest of the forum combined, with the exception of Auburn himself. Clearly I am hyper-focused and determined, and I don't give up until something is resolved. This annoys people and makes them hate me but I just won't stop because I don't see the point in living if I am not standing up for…Read more

The way I see it, enneagram is an ego-fixation which has a large role to play in determining what our ideals are, whereas functions are tools that we use to enact them.

Even if I take my own personal typing out of the equation, I cannot see any pattern in my life in which Pe leads are more likely to idealize 'being free with no obligations' than…Read more

@scientiam

It may be that Pe on its own represents exploration for the sake of curiosity, and J on its own represents judgments about it.

In contrast, my Ji and Je judge every action I take of whether it fits or achieves my identity/goals. Watching a show on Netflix that I’m curious about (Pe) in then becomes a whole “life choice,” as if this on…

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@rondo
Thank you! I find a lot of value in these discussions too.

Let's use the example of Milo Yiannopolus, who Auburn typed as SeFi I-I-  .  He has been banned from several countries, suffers from people attacking him and his husband physically, loses a lot of money because he can't lecture in certain places due to his views. But he is a 4w3 a…Read more

Good discussions. The more I try my hand at typing the more I can feel how different the "energies" of each development level really are, and that's just within the same type! The complexity truly is staggering, and it makes sorting through the subjective details involved in parsing out a system of this complexity something of a nightmare O_O. But…Read more