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Auburn
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Is this an actual generative process of figuring out what to eat, or is there a list of things we know we have in the cupboard that we explore and splice together into a meal?


@alice
– Good questions! The way I understand it, every moment of our lives is a generative act. We are re-wiring our brains every millisecond and, like a flowing river that’s always changing, we never have the exact same thought twice. Indeed, even remembering a memory alters that memory, because it’s recalled, revised, and then re-shelved differently. The same would be true for fixing up a meal. Whenever we re-visit an object, we have to re-generate it anew from our current-mind-state.

For example, when we brainstorm what to have for dinner, the leftover pasta in the fridge is not the same object it was yesterday. When it’s brought into consciousness anew, its properties are different. Now it might be re-generated in our minds as  “one-day-old-pasta”, which is less appealing. Or it might “crunchy-or-soggy pasta-that-lacks-salt” or whatever was wrong/right with it. How an object appears in our consciousness is also dependent on things like our mood, and whatever changes we may have gone through in one day. So for example, if you saw a movie last night that made you feel grateful to be alive, then when you re-generate the pasta object, its properties may be more appealing due to your overall psychic gratitude. We’re dynamic, evolving beings. 🙂

when we have a large (or infinite) range of choices between equally viable options for something, is it a P+ process that “finds” the one to do, or is a J process involved too in order to find the “right” one?

Hmm. I would say lots of things are involved here. P+ may be the finder, and J- is the identifier or qualifier. Together, P+ and J- find information and label it. As for what “choice” to “do”, that takes J+ procedural processing. J+ will decide on what to do, since doing is its thing.

But actually.. that’s not entirely right either. Choice in general is only partly cortical, and it’s also greatly limbic. So while J+/J- are involved in classifying reality and choosing actions, the driving passion behind them is often something more visceral from the emotional register. You can think of the emotional register as giving the mission or passion, and J+ ‘chooses’ the most pragmatic path towards that mission or passion. Wonder if that makes sense?

We choose twice, once when our bodies decide what we desire, and then once again when our minds find a rational avenue to move vectors towards it, and then we make the move to do so.

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