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LadyNerdsky
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  • Type: FiNe
  • Development: ll-l
  • Attitude: Unseelie

As one of the Ji-leads who thought they were INTJ and related to the first Pi profile, below is what is still relatable to me. I think the sticking point for me is that only the Ni (Pi) profile has explicit reference to being predictive in nature. I thought Ne was broadly capable of doing the same. All the issues I have below relate to being someone who does intuit trends, outcomes and consequences often and accurately, and it’s a big part of my experience, but there’s nothing about that captured in Pe I or JiPe II profiles.

“an anticipator of outcomes, for better or worse”

Part of believing I had Ni was the amount of claircognizance I experience. While out in the world I predict what will happen next with regular accuracy. Predictions just pop into my head as “true” from nowhere, as in, I’m not conscious of working out the logical steps to arrive at my conclusion, or actively sitting down to strategize or brainstorm potential scenarios. I somehow leap straight to the most likely result and work backwards to figure out how I arrived there.

BUT, where I distinguish this from Pi as written here, is my predictions involve people and situations unfolding directly in front of me. I’m not forecasting where entire social or political movements are heading. It’s on a micro-level with individuals, small groups, and small events (e.g predicting driver movements on the road). And I need data and immersion in an experience to do this well. The more opportunity I’ve had to interact with a person or experience a situation, even remotely from behind a screen, the better I can predict next-steps.

In NeJi I and JiNe II there’s nothing about Ne’s predictive ability in the profile. The focus is on whimsical trans-contextual thinking, and expressing reality via an art form. (These parts of Ne are also what decrease my level of personal resonance to Ne over Ni).

“uncover trends that you sense will lead to hazards or disasters … long-term view … appreciation for consequences … cautious person … prudence … notice warning signs quickly”.

Same issues as above. Very relatable but using potentially different mechanisms to arrive at the perception of trouble and likely consequences. And not focusing on broad world and/or societal issues, but on an individual/social group/family/organisation level.

“ [not] proposing naive solutions to immediate problems [but asking about] long-term effects … wager probabilities and cast predictions”

Ne + Te working together?

“People may see you as stiff and may encourage you to loosen up more, to let go of inhibitions or take things easier. Getting into a state of playfulness and innocent flow will be a challenge for you, as doing risky things that require no forethought may seem frivolous and foolish”.

THIS. I assume this is written as a counterpoint to unconscious Se/Ne. Except I have Ne conscious (maybe I don’t and I’m gonna lose a stick?) and still meet this description. I relate more to the seriousness and gravity of Ni than the silly, playful, meme-like, surreal descriptions of Ne. And being judge-y of people I think are inane and frivolous.

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