NeTi l—

NeTi l— Adaptive Male

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Here we see the NeTi l— types which demonstrate a bit less energy than was once expected. Just as with the SeTi thread the same conflation of Pe+Je happened with the NeTi’s, essentially putting the double-extroverts as the baseline. But instead, this development is very comparable to the NeFi l— types which is great to see as it shows a strong consistency across types. Having done 3/4 of the Pe’s we can reasonably say that the overall Pe-lead baseline is swaying, glide-y, restless but ultimately rather chill and easygoing. puffs , man I’m sorry to take away your Si! But you’re a solid NeTi l—. :)) And I think the introversion we felt was coming from Pi is moreso an artefact of assuming the NeTi baseline was the double extroverted variety. (thanks for letting me take that video btw, it’s been really helpful having someone I know to use as a baseline to make sure things are rightly calibrated).

Clarifying l— and l-l-

One key aspect that this development helped to clarify is the difference between l— and l-l- (see below). The immediate differences are that l— has less involvement of the hands in gesticulation, less yang energy, pushing and exertion. However, l— can have hand gestures that come up occsionally too, but of a different quality. Here are a few GIFs showing what the hand gestures of l— development look like:

NeTi l—

^ As you can see, the gestures are always P casual hand signals, never ‘hitting’ with force but instead conveying a kind of ongoing movement that mirrors the ongoing nature of their thoughts. Often the hands are used as tools for modeling the size/shape of mental objects, rather than as sharp swords through which to swing their convictions.

NeTi l-l-

^ And here we see l-l- to compare against. Notice how much more firmness there is in the impact, the deliberation and message. The hands are not just casually swaying but are timed according to their articulation to work as a vehicle for that emotional impact.
Psychology

– Music
– Comedy
– Storywriting
– Fantasy

I won’t be able to give the most complete account of this group’s psychology –or that of others in this thread– due to the very low sample size we have. However, already we see commonalities emerge from those available. Bret McKenzie is part of a musical comedy duo called “Flight of the Conchords.” Michael DiMartino is an author and producer of fantasy worlds like “Avatar: The Last Airbender” and “Rebel Genius”. And Puffs is an artist, aspiring musician and storywriter with a knack for comedy as well. The common thread appears to be creative interests that revolve around narratives, interwoven with child-like themes, music and fantasy. More to say on this as our sample pool grows.

NeTi l— Adaptive Female

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We see a clear vultological similarity between these two samples. Once again we see the casual nature of the hands such as in this GIF:


The wrist is loose, the gestures are elaborative rather than exacting or commanding.
This is a helpful way to tell apart if a person’s Je gestures are at “conscious” or “unconscious” levels.

NeTi l— Directive Male

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Getting footage of this guy is tough!
Here we see an NeTi with flat affect. The full video where this was extracted is so revealing of how NeTi’s deal with stress, how they may struggle with creativity, motivation, and life in general. I highly recommend it to anyone who’d like to see a case study of an NeTi in action: link. And also to compare/contrast with the experiences of other Ne-leads here.